Caveman

Yesterdays post, coupled with a very nice afternoon together, got us talking and thinking about the experience we mentioned.  We thought it very interesting that we started with disparate interpretations but ultimately ended up in the same place.  Since Paul promised to continue his insights to the experience, we figured we would continue the talk today.  We know we are supposed to be answering reader questions so here is the question that we asked ourselves:  You mentioned that a few weeks after you were married Paul asked Lee to go to dinner without wearing a bra?  Why was that incident so memorable?

Lee says:  Great question!!  You are one of our most insightful and intelligent readers.  May I also add sexy!  This was a very significant experience for me on multiple levels.  Like I had mentioned, we were naïve.  We were young and very inexperienced in relationships.  We had never felt like that before for anyone else and were engaged only 17 days after deciding to date.  We didn’t play any games with each other in terms of gaining advantage or manipulations.  We talked, discussed, created business plans, explored and experimented.  So this experience was one of the first cross roads in our marriage where our foundations, beliefs and dysfunction ran at each other head to head.    

          For me, the experience of having my new husband tell me not to wear a bra and that he didn’t care who looked at me since I belonged to him was like being drenched in cold water.  It was the complete antithesis to what I had experienced growing up with my parents.  Paul would never treat me like my parents treated each other and, more importantly, he knew that I was committed to him. 

          The deeper understanding of this experience was that Paul actually loved my body.  As a big girl all my life, poor body image was a given.  I had done every diet in the world and had virtually disowned my own chubbiness.  However, here was the man I loved, not only saying he loved my chunky body but he also was proud to be seen with me!  This boosted my self esteem to such a level that even to this day I have a better body image than most women.  It’s amazing what love can do for you!

          These were some of the initial conscious thoughts.  I was able to dissect pretty quickly that Paul was not the jealous type and jealousy, as we all know, is a form of insecurity.  Now, at that point in our lives, no one could have ever accused us as being self assured or confident.  Paul is and was a self proclaimed geek.  He proudly tells people that while others were having fun and getting laid at their proms, he was programming a computer.  So here is my tall, geeky guy, weighing, at the time, 130 lbs, telling me, not unlike some Neanderthal, that I was his woman and he wanted to flaunt it!  Sure, as a feminist I should have verbally bitch slapped him for that one but it was such a definitive and profound declaration for him at that time that, ultimately, I was proud of him.  What can I say? I loved when he beat his chest and dragged me back to his cave! Like most of our posts, we actually discuss them but this one was special.  We realized we each took away something very different from the experience because of our gender, not because of our upbringing.   

          Paul says: For me, this was all an exercise in trust. I was, and am, proud of Lee; her form, her mind, and her wit. I trusted that…

          …to be honest, I’m still uncertain what I was trusting. I trusted Lee to come home with me, to be her flirtatious, fun self and still be my faithful wife at the end of the day. I trusted that I, at 130 lb and geeky, would be able to beat away my simian-like challengers and be super husband with the strongest musk glands.  I was dominant, not over Lee but over my environment and with her at my side.

           

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 Addicted to Love

We have been married for 20 years. To clarify though, these have been good years, not ‘I’m staying with you because of the kids or I’m afraid I will be alone’ years. We are happy. We are the couple that makes people sick. We hold hands and will engage in public displays of affection on any given grocery run. This is one of the reasons we started this blog in the first place. Somehow or another, we have avoided the common traps and pitfalls that most couples succumb to. Sure we were incredibly naïve when we married but we were smart enough to know we didn’t know everything.

Lee says: I can’t tell this story without some background. I have mentioned that my parents were born and bred in Cuba. I was raised in a strict Catholic household where we ate rice with some sort of meat on a daily basis. I had no idea what spam, Rice Krispies treats or a casserole was until I was an adult. My parents were fiery, dramatic and volatile. As a child, I watched them fight all the time and it usually was around some sort of jealousy. Both my parents are very good looking, flirtatious and charming as hell so these arguments were commonplace. This was my marriage training ground. And you’re wondering, what the hell does this have to do with Addictions?

          We had been married for a few weeks and we were enjoying the honeymoon phase. On Friday, we would come home from work, have sex, take a nap and then go to dinner. It was our favorite day of the week! One such Friday, we were dressing for dinner and as I slipped on a black sweater, he asked me to remove my bra. I was stunned since the sweater left little to the imagination in the booby department and going without a foundation garment put them on display.

          I became so hurt and angry that I couldn’t even speak. I remember sitting down on the bed and feeling my eyes burning from the tears. We were newlyweds and getting hurt was easy back then. I told Paul that other men could see me like this and he just smiled and nodded. That’s when I lost it and yelled he didn’t love me because he wasn’t jealous or possessive of me. In retrospect, I do realize how incredibly fucked up that statement was but I was young and stupid. My wonderful husband took me in his arms and held me while I cried.  He informed me that he was fine with ogling men since I would be coming home with him. That was the day I realized how sick my parents were/are. They had equated jealousy with love and passed that gem onto me.

          Most couples are addicted to the drama of relationship. The fighting, competing, accusing is just foreplay in their warped definition of love. It’s like everyone is still 16 and just can’t seem to get over that ‘he said – she said’ bullshit. We may not pass notes anymore, but I’ll text you until my little fingers bleed. Here is a hint, if you don’t trust them, there is something wrong with your relationship and the problem is probably you. This is not to say that your partner is perfect, they are probably messed up too, but you can’t change them. 

          We tend to replay the same dysfunctional patterns our parents did, even choosing mates to fit the right roles. Their sick ideas of love are like family traditions. So, be honest, what did you learn from them?

          Paul says: As a side note and before I get a bunch of angry email, I fully understand that I was objectifying my wife. As Lee said, we were young, I had a lot more testosterone coursing through my body, and the idea of trotting out my arm candy worked for me. In my now enlightened man of the new millennium state, I understand how messed up that was. But that is the subject of another post.    

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